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JoeKool2322  
Subject:  Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL
Date:  4/20/08, 5:56pm (Last Edited: 4/20/08, 6:13pm)
For the first time in his 8 year career J-Roll is rolling into the DL. I hope you guys have scurried the waiver wire for SS or MI to fill the void. Bobby Crosby and Ryan Theriot could still be available and can fill the need for the short time. Both are batting in .300s. In much deeper league the Minnesota combo of Harris and Tolbert are hitting very well (Tolbert .419, Harris .319).

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Message #341 of 405  *NEW*
To:  JoeKool2322
From:  
Rob Reed  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL
Date:  4/20/08, 10:00pm
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>For the first time in his 8 year career J-Roll is rolling into
>the DL. I hope you guys have scurried the waiver wire for SS
>or MI to fill the void. Bobby Crosby and Ryan Theriot could
>still be available and can fill the need for the short time.
>Both are batting in .300s. In much deeper league the Minnesota
>combo of Harris and Tolbert are hitting very well (Tolbert
>.419, Harris .319).

Don't get too excited about Theriot. He has had a great few days which has bumped up his stats... Crosby is also a tough sell for me right now because of his injury risk and mostly lousy past stats.

Of the two, I go with Theriot... but only with the hope that he'll steal me some bases. He's gonna kill your power number single-handedly, however... especially as a replacement for Rollins.

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Message #344 of 405  *NEW*
To:  Rob Reed
From:  
aavenoso  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL
Date:  4/21/08, 4:26am

>
>Don't get too excited about Theriot. He has had a great few
>days which has bumped up his stats... Crosby is also a tough
>sell for me right now because of his injury risk and mostly
>lousy past stats.
>
>Of the two, I go with Theriot... but only with the hope that
>he'll steal me some bases. He's gonna kill your power number
>single-handedly, however... especially as a replacement for
>Rollins.


Whats not to love about Crosby? He performs and you get top shelf production out of a waiver wire pickup. He doesn't and you drop him. What I find funny about him though is that you advise avoiding Crosby and used a draft pick on Baldelli in your money league.

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Message #346 of 405  *NEW*
To:  aavenoso
From:  
JoeKool2322  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL
Date:  4/21/08, 10:26am
You are absolutely correct. Plus he will only fill in for two weeks until J-Roll comes back. These are waiver wire FA that are filling voids and are not hurting your team. Not guys who will just fill up roster spots.

Crosby's line:
.313 BA, 2 HR, 15 RBI, 13 Runs

As I am writing about this he has been added by 11,069 owners in Y! leagues and is owned in 33.9% ESPN leagues.

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Message #348 of 405  *NEW*
To:  aavenoso
From:  
Rob Reed  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL (hello to Mrs. Crosby!)
Date:  4/21/08, 11:44am (Last Edited: 4/21/08, 11:52am)
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>Whats not to love about Crosby? He performs and you get top
>shelf production out of a waiver wire pickup. He doesn't and
>you drop him. What I find funny about him though is that you
>advise avoiding Crosby and used a draft pick on Baldelli in
>your money league.

Hi Aavenoso:

I did not know that we had Crosby's mother as a user on baseballgeeks, so please accept my apologies for offending you. He is a handsome, young man, and I am sure that he makes you proud.

This being said: Baldelli was not diagnosed with a mitochondiral disorder at the time that I drafted him... and his upside was umpteens better than your son.

I'm afraid that the last three years of baseball make your "Whats not to love about Crosby" comment laughable.

What is not to love about no more than 358 ABs in a season in the last three seasons? What is not to love about a .298 OBP and a .274 OBP in the last two years respectively? What is not to love a .229 BA and a .226 BA the last two years respectively?

I submit: There's not a lot to love.

On the positive, he has shown 15-18 HR power. He can steal 15-20 bases. He can score 85 or so runs.

I would rather have Theriot after that synopsis, to be honest.


This being said: I do have Crosby in my baseballmanager league, and I have no problems riding the hot hand here. But, let's face it. Based on the previous three seasons, it is STILL a gamble.

Crosby makes Khalil Greene look like a fantasy superstar.

This being said, your quote "that [I] advise avoiding Crosby" is flat out wrong. I never said that. When given the choice of Crosby or Theriot, however, I would choose Theriot at this point of the season. Just a safer bet for me.

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Message #350 of 405  *NEW*
To:  Rob Reed
From:  
JoeKool2322  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL (hello to Mrs. Crosby!)
Date:  4/21/08, 5:07pm (Last Edited: 4/21/08, 9:50pm)
Considering everything you said you have to remember this is a brand new year. What happen in 07 and 06 is far from what is happening in 08. We base our decisions of fantasy sports on a day-to-day basis. We mainly look at what have you done for me lately in determining who we should start and bench. Right now you have to say Crosby is having a better year than Theriot and Greene.

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Message #352 of 405  *NEW*
To:  Rob Reed
From:  
aavenoso  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL (hello to Mrs. Crosby!)
Date:  4/21/08, 8:30pm

>
>Hi Aavenoso:
>
>I did not know that we had Crosby's mother as a user on
>baseballgeeks, so please accept my apologies for offending
>you. He is a handsome, young man, and I am sure that he makes
>you proud.
>
>This being said: Baldelli was not diagnosed with a
>mitochondiral disorder at the time that I drafted him... and
>his upside was umpteens better than your son.
>
>I'm afraid that the last three years of baseball make your
>"Whats not to love about Crosby" comment laughable.
>
>What is not to love about no more than 358 ABs in a season in
>the last three seasons? What is not to love about a .298 OBP
>and a .274 OBP in the last two years respectively? What is
>not to love a .229 BA and a .226 BA the last two years
>respectively?
>
>I submit: There's not a lot to love.
>
>On the positive, he has shown 15-18 HR power. He can steal
>15-20 bases. He can score 85 or so runs.
>
>I would rather have Theriot after that synopsis, to be
>honest.
>
>
>This being said: I do have Crosby in my baseballmanager
>league, and I have no problems riding the hot hand here. But,
>let's face it. Based on the previous three seasons, it is
>STILL a gamble.
>
>Crosby makes Khalil Greene look like a fantasy superstar.
>
>This being said, your quote "that [I] advise avoiding Crosby"
>is flat out wrong. I never said that. When given the choice
>of Crosby or Theriot, however, I would choose Theriot at this
>point of the season. Just a safer bet for me.

Well you raise some points in your bashing of Bobby Crosby with respect to his batting Avg and OBP, valid points I concede. But lets take a look at the #'s before condemning the former RYO. Its true he hit a combined 227/288 BA and OBP the last few years.

But if you look closely you see he also had a 262 BABIP. Now I am not a Sabermatrician, but thats a bit low. Probably half from injury, probably half from simply being unlucky but I'd say there was a fair amount of upside, especially for a SS who, as you so eloquently pointed out, can go around 20/20 in the counting stats. Keep in mind of course that despite his terribly injury plagued 2007 which he admitted his patience suffered, he had excelent BB rates through the minors and even through 2006, so the OBP is legit, unlike our friend Mr.Greene.

To turn our attention to Rocko: it should be noted that you are quite correct that he was not diagnosed with his mitochondiral disorder until after the draft. That said he had been diagnosed with missing 385 games since 2004. A man that at his very best had a 339 OBP and a BB rate of 6%. From an outfielder surely you can do better in an OBP league, I would hope.

Anyway I am realizing through this whole thing I haven't gotten to make any funny funny jokes like you. Hey I got one!

Me: Knock! Knock!
You: Who's there?

Me: You drafted Khalil Greene too (money league) didn't you?
You: Yeah, Yeah I did... sigh

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Message #353 of 405  *NEW*
To:  aavenoso
From:  
Rob Reed  
Subject:  Re: Another 1st round pick making a trip to the DL (hello to Mrs. Crosby!)
Date:  4/21/08, 9:54pm
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>Me: Knock! Knock!
>You: Who's there?
>
>Me: You drafted Khalil Greene too (money league) didn't you?
>You: Yeah, Yeah I did... sigh

This totally made me crack up, so you succeeded.

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