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JoeKool2322  
Subject:  Is Smoltz the best pitcher in Atlanta Brave history?
Date:  4/22/08, 9:18pm (Last Edited: 4/22/08, 9:21pm)
John Smoltz added another milestone to his illustrious career has an Atlanta Brave pitcher. Whether getting the call in the 9th inning or being penciled every 5th day, Smoltz has been a flat-out gamer and one of my favorite Braves of all-time. After recording his 3,000 K of his career it got me wondering where should Smoltz rank among all-time Brave pitchers. From Maddux, to Niekro, to Glavine, to Spahn, one has to wonder where would Smoltz fall under. To me it is simple. He is the BEST pitcher in Braves history. Name another pitcher who was a starter, converted to closer, then to starter and was damn good in all positions. No pitcher ever has made the transition smoother. He is the all-time leader in saves in franchise history with 154, the all-time leader in K's, and is the best post-season pitcher. Maddux may have the hardware to show and Spahn is the all-time franchise leaders in wins, but none of them can boast a post-season resume like Smoltz can. 15-4 with a 2.65 ERA and 194 K. The 8 time all-star is also the only pitcher to win a Cy Young and a Rolaids Relief Man of the Year award. In thos years where he took hardware he was untouchable. In his Cy Young year he went 24-1 and his Rolaids Relief Man of the year he converted 55 out of 56 save opportunities. Just think if Smoltz would have not been in an Atlanta uniform during those post-season runs. The Atlanta Braves would have not won the World Series and they would definitely be the Buffalo Bills of Major League Baseball.

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Message #23 of 26  *NEW*
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aavenoso  
Subject:  Re: Is Smoltz the best pitcher in Atlanta Brave history?
Date:  4/23/08, 12:14am
Two Words for you: Tyler Yates

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Message #24 of 26  *NEW*
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Moonlight Graham  
Subject:  Re: Is Smoltz the best pitcher in Atlanta Brave history?
Date:  4/23/08, 7:02am
Joe, I must say that this is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. Without even going to baseball reference to support my position with even more stats that would make your stance look silly, I'll just throw these at you. Spahn won 363 games and didn't appear in a major league game until he was 25. He won 20 THIRTEEN times! Yes, Smoltz has been a great postseason pitcher but don't forget, he's had many more playoff rounds and has played on better team. Would you rather have Bernie Williams or Mickey Mantle in your playoff lineup? Williams has the record for HR but Mickey only played World Series games. The fact that Spahn was able to win so many games playing for teams that were not as successful as Smoltz's makes him even more impressive. By the way, Smoltz NEVER went 24-1 in any season. You say Spahn is the second best in Braves' history? I say he's the third best in Major League history and certainly the best lefty ever. When you reach legal drinking age you might agree with me.

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Message #25 of 26  *NEW*
To:  Moonlight Graham
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JoeKool2322  
Subject:  Re: Is Smoltz the best pitcher in Atlanta Brave history?
Date:  4/23/08, 7:22am
I am sorry for the 24-1 it was 24-8. Yes Warren has won all those games but he has also pitched 1500+ more innings than Smoltz. In 1500+ less innings and 170 less starts Smoltz has 500 more K's than Spahn had in his career. If you take career averages Warren has him beat but by just a nod.

Warren's average: 17-11, 3.09 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 124 K, 31 GS

John's average: 12-8, 3.25 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 174 K, 27 GS

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Message #26 of 26  *NEW*
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Rob Reed  
Subject:  Re: Is Smoltz the best pitcher in Atlanta Brave history?
Date:  4/23/08, 10:22am (Last Edited: 4/23/08, 10:23am)
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What? No takers for Andy Messersmith? What about John "The Man" Rocker?!?!?!?!?!

I'm a big fan of Smoltz, Spahn, and Niekro. I'll take all three in a three way tie.

And, just talking to myself here... but I find it funny that one of my recent negative reviews accuses me of secretly hating the Braves.

It seems that the Braves are mostly what we are talking about on here right now.

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